30-Round Magazines Are Not The Problem

Talking points for the 30-round-magazine debate

Depriving the public of gear as a way to stop murderers is misguided.
It puts you at risk, and at its core, is a thinly disguised effort to get to zero-round magazines --
in the false and dangerous belief that disarming innocent people will finally disarm criminals.
Legislators asked me to prepare this list.

30-Round Magazine Debate Misses Key Point
30-Round Magazine Debate Misses Key Point
30-Round Magazine Debate Misses Key Point

Talking points for the 30-round
firearm-magazine-size debate

Alan Korwin, Author, Gun Laws of America



By focusing on magazine size instead of ways to stop active shooters you jeopardize everyone’s safety.

Hoping to limit murderers by limiting magazines is irrational and hoplophobic.

Why have people picked a ten-round limit? Why not two? Or eleven?
Someone picked an arbitrary number and everyone is just going along -- without thought.

Are they saying it’s OK to only kill ten people? That makes no sense.

Would you make police obey the same limit? Why not?

Parity with Police:
The public faces the same criminals police do.
Any restrictions for the public must match what police can use.
The public is always first at the scene.

If you can’t justify impeding the police with ammunition limits,
you cannot legitimately justify impeding the public that way.

What’s needed to stop rampages is not another law written on paper
but speedier law enforcement, or any armed people who can respond.

“If more good people carried guns, the bad guys would get off less shots.”

A criminal can’t have a magazine of any size.
A law restricting size adds nothing.

None of these arguments matter.
People who want to restrict magazines are on a roll,
using the Tucson assassinations for momentum.
They want any kind of gun bans they can get,
regardless of crime fighting, public safety, logic or reason.
Magazine size is merely the soup du jour.
They are emotionally compromised.

Limiting the amount of ammunition a person has for self defense is dangerous.

The only way to stop a lethal attack is with countervailing force.

The correct response to a mass murderer is not to restrict the public,
but to empower the public and give us every advantage possible.

People are always the first responders.
Police are second responders.

We face the same criminals.
We both need the best tools we can get.

We know laws banning murder and armed criminals don’t stop criminals.
Why would you want to do more of the same when you know it doesn’t work?
(Because it’s a hoplophobic response, not a rational one.)

An infringed-capacity magazine violates your civil rights.

Infringing on the size of a magazine doesn’t stop crazy people.
Imagining that it somehow will, now that’s crazy.

Will magazine-size bans feel good,
as if you’re really doing something?

Will they actually do something?



Will a magazine limit stop a murderer from carrying several guns? Of course not.

Will it prevent swapping out magazines? How do you propose controlling that?

Infringing on magazine size has no effect on the millions of magazines already out there.

Limiting the public doesn’t limit criminals. It just limits the public.

Trying to stop crime or crazy people by limiting magazine size can’t work.
We tried that, for ten years under Clinton’s size ban. It’s a proven failure
The NY Times admitted this in no uncertain terms --

Resurrecting a proven failure reveals that the magazine-size debate is about bans,
not about public safety.

The public should have at least as much ammunition as police can have.

Because people face the same criminals police do, we have an honest need for equal gear.

Attacking the right to an uninfringed magazine because of one assassin is a political game,
not a meaningful solution to homicidal rampages.

Using a tragic homicidal assault for leverage against civil rights is reprehensible.

Using tragedy to advance a political agenda aimed at incrementally disarming the public
is the ugliest underbelly of politics. It’s shameful.

Killing Is Fun! Someone has to say it --
With constant Technicolor promotion of “the thrill of killing” from Hollywood and TV,
we can expect another homicidal rampage. We must be ready to stop it when it inevitably occurs.

They’re not deranged, they’re imitating --
With Hollywood and the networks glorifying immoral behavior,
portraying killers as heroes to be emulated, and mourned when put down,
it’s false to classify copycat crimes or killing sprees as mental disease.
It's imitation, "the sincerest form of flattery."
Congratulations Tinsel Town.

The proper response to the recognition that people can go berserk
and cause mayhem is to foster a culture of marksmanship.

From army posts to grocery stores, homicidal attacks take place in make-believe gun free zones.
Paper signs do not deter murderers.

A phony gun-free zone made by posting a sign may feel good,
but it has been repeatedly proven to be extremely dangerous and negligent.

A person who posts a no-guns-allowed sign should be liable if it causes harm.
See the model legislation at gunlaws.com.

Murderous carnage has nothing to do with magazine size
and everything to do with opportunity.
Crowds of unarmed people offer murderers a field day.

If legislation really could stop criminals
there wouldn’t be any.

Laws do not stop crime.
Law enforcement stops crime.

It’s time to broadly promote National Training Week from July 4 through 11,
when all Americans are encouraged to go to the range and practice. Details at gunlaws.com. http://www.gunlaws.com/NationalTrainingWeek.htm

It’s time to consider a tax break or tax credit to encourage people
to go to the range and improve their readiness and skills.

Millions of 30-round and larger magazines are not used for killing, they’re used at ranges, which is where most legal gun use is conducted. Attacks on magazines are attacks on ranges, the home court for the Second Amendment, the bottom line on legal gun use. Attacks on magazines are attacks on the heart of the right to keep and bear arms.

Disarm criminals first.



Always frame the debate as pro rights vs. anti rights,
never as pro gun vs. anti gun, which yields ground to the antis.

This is a civil-rights issue, a question of fundamental human rights.

Always talk about discreet carry, a cultural and civilized norm,
never about concealed carry,
which sounds like you have something to hide.

Always refer to personal sidearms,
a neutral and non-inflammatory term,
never to handguns,
a word that has been vilified beyond usefulness.

Remember that assault is a kind of behavior, not a kind of hardware.
The media loves that word because it spins the debate to their liking,
and makes firearms automatically bad, instead of true focus on bad actors.

Always ask a person who questions assault-weapon possession
what guns they’re talking about exactly. They do not know.

Any weapon you can own is an ordinary household firearm,
the type you might find in any American household.

Don’t waste time and audience attention correcting ignorant reporters
who talk about clips or bullets. Let them remain self-evidently ignorant.
See the entire Glossary at gunlaws.com. http://www.gunlaws.com/politicallycorrect.htm



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